New umbra warframe9/1/2023 ![]() It's not impossible to do it, in my opinion, my only problem with it would be using the forma as an excuse, as you said.Īctually, no warframe, prime or not, can actually display personality like Umbra. I'm of the opinion that an "independent action" option should be available for all Warframes, just achieved by some independent means rather than by slapping on a Forma. I posted in haste and forgot an addendum specifying this. The Excalibur Umbra appears to have never been "tamed" in this way, which is why he remained angry, but Ballas' narrative makes it clear that this has happened before, in my reading to all the Warframes.Īnd sure - I'm not saying Umbral Forma should do it. Near as I can tell, it was the Tenno who were finally able to calm the Warframes and turn them into a proper weapon of war. developed Warframes before the Zariman 10-0 incident, producing exactly the kind of aggressive, uncontrollable monsters that the Excalibur Umbra is. My reading of the Vitruvian suggests that Ballas and co. Inaros ended up serving as the god-figure of an entire society, Gara was a servant to the Unum, Valkyr was experimented on and driven insane, etc. Like I said - all of the Warframes seem to have acted independently at some point. Enough to choke an operator with it's arm and escape in search for revenge on the person who made him like that.īut that's my take on it, why Umbras are special just like primes, and how I find a forma to be a poor excuse to trivialise that mechanic. While Umbra was "mad" it still had cognitive abilities and functions. And the other frames, case in point Rhino, were plainly mad in the more literal sense of the word. Good luck explaining how a forma will give frames "the one memory loop" that makes an Umbra what it is. Umbra was different from others in that regard. I'm of the opinion that having "Umbral" behaviour on a Warframe should be an independent choice, and not a super-rare one.įor me it does. The Umbral Forma item is far, far too rare and unattainable to serve such a pivotal function, plus it's too powerful to not use if you have it. Excalibur Umbra held onto this ability until present day due to the nature of his creation, but nothing about his backstory suggests that the ability itself is unique.įorgot to mention: All of the above doesn't mean I WANT Umbral Forma to do this. If anything, the lore behind each individual Warframe and what they were doing in the past before they became lost appears to suggest that they acted without an operator already at some point. If anything, the lore strongly suggests that all Warframes are capable of doing this based on Ballas' description in the Vitruvian and the general means by which they're all created. ![]() The lore in no way prevents other Warframes from behaving like the Exaclibur Umbra. Lore that prevents other frames, and trivializes Umbra's whole sacrifice, from getting such a mechanic. ![]()
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